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Post  Col. Toonces Sat Apr 17, 2021 4:02 am

I'm a brand new user of both SowWL and the KS mod. I downloaded and installed what appeared to be the latest files needed for the KS mod. I adjusted the options settings as closely to the recommended settings as the game would allow me.
Whenever I start to play and try to adjust the Brigade's formation, the games crashes to desktop. I also have the compatibility set to Win7 and the game set to run by Administrator.
Attached is the log file as a spoiler, as I didn't see a way to actually attach a file.
Any help would be appreciated.

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Post  Uncle Billy Sat Apr 17, 2021 4:52 am

Welcome to the forum.

You may have the mod inside a mod problem. Open the KS Napoleon Mod folder. Is there another folder inside with exactly the same name? If so, then you have to remove the inner folder from the outer one and delete the outer one. Do that for the other two parts of the mod, i.e. the Supplemental Maps and KS Sprites if necessary.

In addition, you must disable the Les Cent-Jours mod. It is not compatible. Also it is very unlikely you'll be able to play any of the DLC or stock scenarios.
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Post  Col. Toonces Sat Apr 17, 2021 3:47 pm

Thank you, Uncle Billy.

I no longer have the double folder problem; that had initially kept me from using the KS mod at all.

Apparently I got confused between different SowWL forums.  I downloaded the Les Cent-Jours mod thinking it was compatible.  As well, I didn't even realize the scenario I was trying to play was from that mod.

I'll try an compatible scenario and let you know if I have any further problems.

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Post  rschilla Sat Apr 17, 2021 4:00 pm

Speaking of Les Cent Jours, I noticed that in the new SG 1.65 there is a Nap_France_La Souffel.jpg file but I can't seem to find any of the supporting files for it.

Is that a work-in-progress or something?

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Post  Uncle Billy Sat Apr 17, 2021 4:39 pm

@Col. Toonces
I hope that solves your issues.  If not, let us know.

@rschilla
We tried out the map on a couple of occasions.  It's a very nice map with interesting possibilities but it has some errors in it.  No one has yet gotten around to fixing those.  Just one of those things.  If you want to use the map, just go to the Les Cent-Jours Mod and rename all the folders EXCEPT Maps and Sounds.  I just place a character in front of the name of each folder.  See the picture below.

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Post  rschilla Sun Apr 18, 2021 12:54 am

So..... the extra character prevents the game from reading that particular file and it defaults to the KS Mod?

How the hell do you think of this stuff?

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Post  Uncle Billy Sun Apr 18, 2021 4:32 am

Yes, that's how it works.
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Post  rschilla Sun Apr 18, 2021 6:14 am

I'm still getting this error. I set this up for SP.


22:07:07 Loading Map (Nap_France_LaSouffel)
22:07:07 PR: (ERROR) Level not found
22:07:20 PR: (ERROR) Cannot open heightfield TGA
22:07:21 PR: (ERROR) Level not found


I don't even see any such file anywhere in the SOWWL Mods file.

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Post  Uncle Billy Sun Apr 18, 2021 4:29 pm

You have to rename the ini file in the Maps folder of Les Cent-Jours mod to Nap_France_LaSouffel.ini.
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Post  rschilla Sun Apr 18, 2021 4:54 pm

details....details.

That worked and the game loaded and promptly crashed with a runtime error, which is what I remember happening when LCJ first came out and I couldn't get it to work then, either.

Oh well. It is a nice looking map, though.

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Post  Uncle Billy Sun Apr 18, 2021 5:28 pm

Does the log file give any information concerning the crash?
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Post  rschilla Sun Apr 18, 2021 5:37 pm

Not that I can see.

This is how the log file ends.


15:00:00 Planting Shrubbery . . . A Lot of Shrubbery
15:00:00 Total Collision Objs:313
15:00:00 ----------------loading: GFX_Smoke_2
15:00:00 ----------------loading: GFX_WL_Fort_300
15:00:00 Texture file not found NAME:GFX_WL_FORT_300 at PATH: FILE:GFX_WL_FORT_300.DDS
15:00:00 Could not load sprite GFX_WL_Fort_300 at Graphics\Terrain\
15:00:00 ----------------loading: GFX_WL_Fort_1000
15:00:00 ----------------loading: GFX_Smoke_1
15:00:00 ----------------loading: LW_Clothesline1
15:00:00 Drafting Chain of Command
15:00:00 Chain of Command: Top Commander Empereur Napoléon Bonaparte
15:00:00 Chain of Command: Top Commander Tsar Alexsandr I
15:00:00 Loading Battle Events
15:00:00 SowWL Level Loaded...
15:00:00 08:48:42
15:00:06 BDE: Général de brigade La Salle has received orders AssignedOrders: ATTACK
15:00:07 BDE: Polk polkovnik kazach'yego has received orders AssignedOrders: DEFEND
15:00:14 *&* ArmyOff: Tsar Alexsandr I play size: 9 NumComplete: 0



Further up it shows this:

15:00:00 Loading Battle Plans
15:00:00 Language Tag not found: #{IDS_MAP_Lampertheim}
15:00:00 Language Tag not found: #{IDS_MAP_Pfulgriesheim}
15:00:00 Language Tag not found: #{IDS_MAP_Reichstett}
15:00:00 Language Tag not found: #{IDS_MAP_Mundolsheim}
15:00:00 Language Tag not found: #{IDS_MAP_Soffelweiersheim}
15:00:00 Language Tag not found: #{IDS_MAP_Griesheim}
15:00:00 Language Tag not found: #{IDS_MAP_Dingsheim}
15:00:00 Language Tag not found: #{IDS_MAP_Niederhausbergen}
15:00:00 Language Tag not found: #{IDS_MAP_Mittelhausbergen}
15:00:00 Language Tag not found: #{IDS_MAP_Oberhausbergen}
15:00:00 Language Tag not found: #{IDS_MAP_Hoenheim}
15:00:00 Language Tag not found: #{IDS_MAP_Bischheim}
15:00:00 Language Tag not found: #{IDS_MAP_Schiltigheim}
15:00:00 Language Tag not found: #{IDS_MAP_Stone_Bridge}
15:00:00 Language Tag not found: #{IDS_MAP_Les_Auberges}
15:00:00 Language Tag not found: #{IDS_MAP_Vendenheim}
15:00:00 Language Tag not found: #{IDS_MAP_Cabaret_de_Nieder}
15:00:00 Language Tag not found: #{IDS_FORT_PFULGRIESHEIM}
15:00:00 Language Tag not found: #{IDS_FORT_LAMPERTHEIM}
15:00:00 Language Tag not found: #{IDS_FORT_MUNDOLSHEIM}
15:00:00 Language Tag not found: #{IDS_FORT_REICHSTETT}
15:00:00 Language Tag not found: #{IDS_FORT_SOFFELWEIERSHEIM}
15:00:00 Language Tag not found: #{IDS_FORT_GRIESHEIM}
15:00:00 Language Tag not found: #{IDS_FORT_DINGSHEIM}
15:00:00 Language Tag not found: #{IDS_FORT_NIEDERHAUSBERGEN}
15:00:00 Language Tag not found: #{IDS_FORT_MITTELHAUSBERGEN}
15:00:00 Language Tag not found: #{IDS_FORT_OBERHAUSBERGEN}
15:00:00 Language Tag not found: #{IDS_FORT_HOENHEIM}
15:00:00 Language Tag not found: #{IDS_FORT_BISCHHEIM}
15:00:00 Language Tag not found: #{IDS_FORT_SCHILTIGHEIM}



I'll see if I can grab a screen shot of the actual error message from Windows.

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Post  rschilla Sun Apr 18, 2021 5:45 pm

Here's the screen shot.


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Post  Uncle Billy Sun Apr 18, 2021 5:52 pm

The name tags won't matter.  Likely it is the missing fort designations.  The KS mod doesn't use them.  Try replacing the csv files in Les Cent_Jours Maps folder with these: La Souffel CSV files
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Post  rschilla Sun Apr 18, 2021 6:21 pm

That seems to have done the trick. At the very least the game has progressed to the point where I deployed Claparede's division to defend the bridge and the Russian column has come into sight. That has never happened before.

I also got a chance to scout out the map a bit and found that a lot of the other bridges had been destroyed. I'm going to hazard a guess that the "Bridges" map has them restored?


I wish the game had a better error messaging routine. In Rome Total War there was a switch that could be used called -show err which told the modder exactly what line he had screwed up! That made things easy.

Again, you're the man with the answers.

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Post  Uncle Billy Sun Apr 18, 2021 6:29 pm

Glad to hear it works. Happy gaming.
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Post  Col. Toonces Sun Apr 18, 2021 11:32 pm

Sadly, I'm still crashing to the desktop.
I removed the folder for the mod that was causing problems previously. I put it, renamed, in the main directory where it shouldn't cause any problems, I would think.
When I crash, I get the same message, which I really need to write down. I keep trying to take a screenshot, but it seems I don't have any buttons that work. Each time it crashes, I'm given an option to Abort, Retry or Ignore. It seems that no matter which I select, it still crashes to desktop.
The log is long and attached as a spoiler again so it doesn't clutter things up too much. I would've appended it as rscilla did his, but last time, the problem was found near the very beginning.
Thanks for any help. I really would like to be able to play an entire battle, just to see how poorly I do. A military genius, I am not.

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Post  Uncle Billy Mon Apr 19, 2021 4:24 pm

It looks like you played the game for 22 minutes, stopped it and then tried to resume it later. Those early scenarios can't be restarted. They were meant to be played straight through. Sorry.
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Post  Col. Toonces Mon Apr 19, 2021 4:49 pm

'Tis somewhat strange. I didn't stop the game per se, as in do a save and then load the save and start again. What I did was bring the menu up so I could pause the game to fix dinner and then went back to it and continued where I left off. Would that do it?
One thing I didn't say about the error, because I'm only guessing, is that it seems to happen when I mistakenly double click (not sure right or left) instead of a single click. It that a possibility?

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Post  Uncle Billy Mon Apr 19, 2021 5:15 pm

According to the log, the game engine crashed. I've never paused the game for a long period of time, only for a few minutes. It looks as if the game unloaded from memory and then tried to reload itself when you came back to continue playing. I guess you shouldn't do that in the future.
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Post  Miko77 Mon Apr 19, 2021 6:37 pm

Possibly during the longer period pause, some energy saving feature of Windows could trigger and cause game to unload from the memory...
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Post  Col. Toonces Mon Apr 19, 2021 7:02 pm

Thank you.  Good to know.  I'll have to try to find a day when I can devote the time without having to stop to do other things.

Anyone up to discussing this with my wife for me?

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Post  DumpTruck Mon Apr 19, 2021 9:32 pm

If you're just playing single player it's possible to fast forward the time scale, so you could more quickly get through the marching and any slow spots.

Also, we occasionally stop our Multiplayer games due to a crash or another person joining or something, and then we resume it again right where we left off.  So it's possible to save a battle and resume it later as we have done many times.  Though as I'm not the host of our games I don't actually know how to do this Sad it's just part of the magic that Uncle Billy does behind the scenes that I take for granted.

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Post  rschilla Fri May 14, 2021 9:25 pm

Map level Error being reported on the Nap_Spain_Burgos_KS_RM map

Normally when I get a level error it is because one file or other is missing.

However, here:

MapName=Spain Burgos Restricted Movement
MapDesc=5-mi map
Author=e.w.s, Scaupiso

[Initialization]
;Full Screen=0
;NoAI=1
DbgLvl=1
;Alpha Omega=1

[Files]
LSLFile=Burgos_Spain_KS.lsl
CSVFile=Burgos_Spain_KS.csv
Grayscale=Burgos_Spain_KS_RM.bmp
Minimap=Burgos_Spain_KS_RM_MM.dds



all four of the required files are not only present in Maps 1.24 I have also copied them to the Maps Folder in v 1.34 and it still claims it cannot find one or more of them.

Or, is this another of those situations where something has to be renamed "Nap_Spain....yada...yada...yada..."


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Post  DumpTruck Fri May 14, 2021 11:40 pm

If I can just piggy back on this thread rather than starting a new one... (might not be a bad idea to have a pinned thread for bugs/issues somewhere?).  So I went poking around to try and fix my recording problem, which I think I solved, but I encountered a strange issue while I was troubleshooting.  I went to host a multiplayer game just to test and it gave me the error telling me I had an extra instance of a mod file running: unitglobal.csv.  I thought this was odd, that perhaps I copied a file into a folder I shouldn't have or something.  I did a file search and found only one unitglobal.csv.  Weird.  Must be somewhere I'm not looking.  Disabled the three KS mods, hosted a multiplayer lobby no problem.  I decided that instead of searching for a potential needle in a hay stack I just redownloaded the mod files fresh and installed them.  I got the extra unitglobal.csv error again even off the fresh install of the three files.  I've hosted multiplayer lobby before and didn't get this issue, and I've only got those three mod files enabled.  I don't understand what I'm missing if a completely fresh install of the mod gives me that error, but the vanilla game doesn't.

Also please don't forget to address rschilla's post above mine Smile I don't want to bury it.

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