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Post  Grog on Sun May 20, 2018 2:22 pm


Food for thought

Can we have a look at the formations/drills because, it seems that since we included the Column of Regiments formation, some of the other Inf brigade have become incompatible.
Switching to both Double Line or Skirmish formation will cause the battalions to switch over and march diagonally to their new position,presumably because the battalion numbering sequence in the Drills is now different. Could we try to standardise the sequence?

Whilst I like the 3 battalion frontage in the Column of Regiments formation, and am happy for the AI to use this predominantly, it would be good to have some good alternatives fro the Human player.

I also find it hard to position my battalions where I want them due to the Brigadier being way back from the front line. I'm sure this helps him stay safe when attacking but when in defense or if just deploying, it is much easier to have him up front with the line. This is particularly evident when trying to set up a defensive line on a ridge or behind a river, or even the edge of a wood.

There are some other things but I wondered what peoples thoughts and experiences are here?


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Post  Mr. Digby on Sun May 20, 2018 3:31 pm

I agree that having the brigade commander mark where the centre front of the brigade will be is a useful guide. You only really need this in defence, as Grog says. In attack he can be behind the first or even second line of battalions.

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Post  Uncle Billy on Sun May 20, 2018 4:11 pm

It's probably time to look at how the brigades transition from one formation to another. However, there will be some battalions jostling about whenever skirmishers are deployed as that opens a hole in the formation.

I agree the brigade commander in the middle of the formation is not ideal, but due to the limitations of how formations are constructed via the csv file, he has to be there. The idea is to have the supporting battalions, (2nd line), be well back from the front line. This keeps them from being fired upon by enemy guns and more importantly, it decreases the general chaos of all the battalions trying to move and engage the enemy at once. Even with this in place, the game engine sometimes spoils things by sending all units to the front line, but it has noticeably reduced this problem.

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Re: Discussion on Formations

Post  Grog on Mon May 21, 2018 8:42 pm


There is much more than jostling about with the present formation transitions. They cross right over from left to right and vice versa.

Yes I was mainly talking about formations that we could use for defence.

Being able to pick the frontage of your brigade would be the key factor. 1, 2 , 3 or 4 battalions/cavalry regiments.

There are plenty of formations in the stock game or Randy's Mod, where the Brigade commander is close to the front.


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