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Post  Tim Carne on Thu Aug 23, 2018 2:54 pm

I am working from the dice table for the 1828 supplement republished by Bill some years ago.

I am interested in the artillery casualty rates.

There are rows for 800, 1200 paces and Roll (ricochet) beyond 1200.

For dice 3 and 4 (6lbr cannon) the losses are higher on the Roll line than they are for 1200 paces.

For Howitzers (dice 1 and 2) and 12 lbrs (dice 5 and 6) the losses on the Roll line are lower than they are for 1200 paces (which is what I would expect).

I suspect the dice 3 and 4 have 1200 paces and Roll are transposed.

Has anyone any pictures of the 1828 dice - I have searched on the internet, no success so far.

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Post  Tim Carne on Thu Aug 23, 2018 3:49 pm

I have managed to find a partial scan of the original dice table and these are the same as in the table produced by Bill.

So can we believe that aimed fire at longer range is less lethal than random shot at even longer range?

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Post  Didz on Fri Aug 24, 2018 11:05 am

My instant reaction on reading this was that the lower losses on aimed fire at longer ranges might be due to elevation of the barrel.  This significantly reduced the time that a shot was below lethal head height and reduced the bounce length, whereas ricochet fire was intended to produce a shot that rolled or bounced below head height for its entire journey (terrain permitting of course)
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Just checked my notes on this and according to range tests conducted on a British 9pdr at the time at:-
- 0' degree's elevation: Shot was lethal for the entire duration of travel up to 900 yards from the barrel. A 6pdr shot travelled 800 yards
- 1' degree elevation : Shot was not lethal for the first 650 yards and then became lethal after its first graze at 650 yards out to 1,000 yards.
- 2' degree elevation : Shot was not lethal until its first graze at 850 yards and then became lethal out to 1,000 yards

It seems that elevating the barrel added slightly to the range but overall it reduced the lethality of the shot but over 50% of its travel. The 2nd degree of elevation seems to add nothing of value unless the terrain required it.


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Post  Tim Carne on Sat Aug 25, 2018 2:42 pm

Thanks, that makes a lot of sense.


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Post  Tim Carne on Sat Aug 25, 2018 2:42 pm

Has the identity of the 1828 committee ever been established?

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